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Vegas Fanatics - Las Vegas Message Board and Forum, Trip Reports, Hotel Reviews, Gambling Tips I've read a lot of different forums and sites concerning craps and the dark side betting with laying odd the last week.
There are so many different theories and strategies.
I like to keep it simple with just the Don't pass and then lay odds.
I'm still a rookie, but I'm trying to get more experience while not making rookie mistakes too often.
I'm going to Cromwell 100x odds and The D 10x odds in a few weeks and I want to be prepared with my own strategy.
I realize once any point is established I have odds in my favor with laying odds,, but what do you think about the above theories.?
I think that Hard4 said to pound all the point 's when laying odds, but wouldn't variance be stronger that way.?
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This is a misnomer.
You are gambling after all so might as well bet that 6k to win 5k!!
It's all a losing proposition lol.
In the proverbial long run of course.
The money the house makes is simply on the don't pass bet.
But iirc, CET counts everything on the table for comp purposes including odds?
Does that sound right and?
In that case, I would always bet the minimum pass or don't pass and load up with as much odds as you and your bankroll feel comfortable with.
Lol, reminds me of my early days playing craps, a couple of trips I would bet pass line and place the 6 and 8.
And then roll nothing but 5s and 9s.
I usually play the pass line and odds.
All u need is 5 number rolls and learn more here win some money I think that Hard4 said to pound all the point 's when laying odds, but wouldn't variance be stronger that way.?
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Yep, and I'll gladly say it again!
When laying odds or taking odds on the pass line it doesn't matter what the point is - you are receiving the "true odds" of that scenario actually happening which is at a 0.
Obviously variance will play into any game, but over the long term, taking or laying odds is the best bet in the casino at 0% HE.
The math says take as much odds as you can get, and do it every time regardless of the point.
Now understand that just because you can play 100x odds at Cromwell, giving you the best odds lay bet odds craps lower the HE, it's still a losing proposition of course.
And to play there, especially on the don't side, you need a significant bankroll to withstand all of the variance at that level.
Knowing all of this, when I want to play the don't here's what I do and would recommend for you lay bet odds craps try.
Shouldn't be too hard to find - MSS, Golden Gate, and El Cortez should have these iirc.
Then play 1 or 2 Don't Come bets depending on your comfort level.
Play that way for an hour and see how it goes.
Doesn't require a huge bankroll, should be a good time and allow a lot of play compared to all of the inside betsand gives you plenty of action when having a don't and a don't come or two.
Good luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yep, and I'll gladly say it again!
When laying odds or taking odds on the pass line it doesn't matter what the point is - you are receiving the "true odds" of that scenario actually happening which is at a 0.
Obviously variance will play into any game, but over the long term, taking or laying odds is the best bet in the casino at 0% HE.
The math says take as lay bet odds craps odds as you can get, and do it every time regardless of the point.
Now understand that just because you can play 100x odds at Cromwell, giving you the best odds and lower the HE, it's still a losing proposition of course.
And to play there, especially on the don't side, you need a significant bankroll to withstand all of the variance at that level.
Knowing all of this, when I want to play the don't here's what I do and would recommend for you to try.
Shouldn't be too hard to find - MSS, Golden Gate, and El Cortez should have these iirc.
Then play 1 or 2 Don't Come bets depending on your comfort level.
Play that way for an hour and see how it goes.
Doesn't blackjack app live a huge bankroll, should be a good time and allow a lot of play compared to all of the inside betsand gives you plenty of action when having a don't and a don't come or two.
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I'm learning little by little.
So, in addition to the Don't pass and laying odds,,,, I can also bet Don't Come and lay odds on that bet as well.
So with one shooter I can have a lot more of action on the table at low house advantage.
It seems like the Don't come and lay odds are like a game inside the main game.
If I bet both Don't Pass and then Don't come after come out roll and lay odds on both and the 7 hits, I win on everything.
If the Don't come point is made, I still have the Don't pass and odds in play.
TY laying odds just jacks up your variance.
The money the house makes is simply on the don't pass bet.
But iirc, CET counts everything on the table for comp purposes including odds?
Does that sound right and?
In that case, I would always bet continue reading minimum pass or don't pass and load up with as much odds as you and your bankroll feel comfortable with.
By the way, so does aria, Wynn and a few others.
More action means higher HE.
Also more action means more pressure, stress, thinking and yes sometimes more fun.
I'm learning little by little.
So, in addition to the Don't pass and laying odds,,,, I can also bet Don't Come and lay odds on that bet as with beating bloch blackjack andy />So with pokerstars client software 32 bit shooter I can have a lot more of action on the table at low house advantage.
It seems like the Don't come and lay odds are like a game inside the main game.
If I bet both Don't Pass and then Don't come after come out roll and lay odds on both and the 7 hits, I win on everything.
If the Don't come point is made, I still have the Don't pass and odds in play.
TY Click to expand.
Now you're getting it Willie.
The don't come is just like starting a new game, so laying odds on that makes just as much sense and the original don't wager.
For me, it's just a way to get more action on the table.
I love it when I get 3 numbers up on a shooter and then with one flick of the dice a 7 shows up and pays me on all 3 bets.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk A Rookie Question.??
Wouldn't it be most wise to find a casino that offers greater times odds than a casino that offers 3-4-5 times odds?
This way you can risk less on the original come out roll in relation to the amount one can bet on odds.
I realize all tables have a minimum Pass line-Don't pass line bet amount, but larger bettors need to bet larger on the come out roll to take greater advantage of only 3-4-5 x odds.
Messages: Likes Received: 2,624 Player's Clubs: Mlife Platinum Borgata Black Label TR Diamond for now Wouldn't it be most wise to find a casino that offers greater times odds than a casino that offers 3-4-5 times odds?
This way you can risk less on the original come out roll in relation to the amount one can bet on odds.
I realize all tables have a minimum Pass line-Don't pass line bet amount, but larger bettors need to bet larger on the come out roll to take greater advantage of only 3-4-5 x odds.
In practice, there are very few casinos that offer greater than 3-4-5x, and those tend to be, shall we say, not as nice.
Hell, the Wynn only offers 2x odds at this point.
And bear in mind, betting larger multiples lowers the house edge say, 10x vs.
Now you're getting it Willie.
The don't come is just like starting a new game, so laying odds on that makes just as much sense and the original don't wager.
For me, it's just a way to get more action on the table.
I love it when I get 3 numbers up on a shooter and then with one flick of the dice a 7 shows up and pays me on all 3 bets.
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So, I can make multiple Don't Come bets with odds.??
Say for example sake.
The point is a 9.
If 5 or 4 hit I lose those individual bets but keep the pass line and odds in play.
TY In theory, yes.
In practice, there are very few casinos that offer greater than 3-4-5x, and those read article to be, shall we say, lay bet odds craps as nice.
Hell, the Wynn only offers 2x odds at this point.
And bear in mind, betting larger multiples lowers the house edge say, 10x vs.
If folks refuse the lower odds, the casinos should have to up the odds amounts.
Messages: Likes Received: 2,624 Player's Clubs: Mlife Platinum Borgata Black Label TR Diamond for now There's an upper limit, though.
With craps, if you're taking full odds at 3-4-5x then you're looking at an overall house edge south of 1%; 10x odds is less than 0.
At a certain point it's just not economical to run the game anymore, especially because craps requires a lot more staff than any other casino game, and generally depends on having a full table.
So, I can make multiple Don't Come bets with odds.??
Say for example sake.
The point is a 9.
If 5 or 4 hit I lose those individual bets but keep the pass line and odds in play.
TY Click to expand.
Again - exactly right.
You've got this stuff down.
That's one reason I like playing the don't as opposed to playing the pass line.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Again - exactly right.
You've got this stuff down.
That's one reason I like playing the don't as opposed to playing the pass line.
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Obviously it is still gambling, but I wonder why more people don't see this logic.
It seems like 90% or more players at the table bet Pass line and come bets too and the mid-table voodoo bets.
Obviously it is still gambling, but I wonder why more people don't see this logic.
here seems like 90% or more players at the table bet Pass line and come bets too and the mid-table voodoo bets.
Simple - the strategy we talked about is "boring" while all of the inside action is fast and exciting.
Most people myself included once in a while like the inside bets because they pay out a high amount vs money wagered.
If there's a hot shooter that's hitting a lot of hard ways, fire bets etc.
Also, when a craps table is hot, it's one of the best things in the world.
Most people want to get on that rush and celebrate with the entire table - It offers great camaraderie.
This is one of the reasons I mostly play the pass line at strip casinos.
However, when I'm downtown or at a local, I most always play the donts.
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